There’s something wrong with the Jessica Yaniv story


I’ve been reading about this court case recently, after getting into a sort of twitter argument with comedian Ricky Gervais after his comments on the topic.  I’ve googled Jessica Yaniv, and all I seem to find, is anti-trans websites reporting on the case.  No verifiable independent source without an agenda.  What I’ve read about this person (I’m holding off referring to them as him or her and am instead using gender neutral terminology for the time being) is extremely disturbing and worrying, but it’s the same words, the same language, the exact same phrasing in every article I’m seeing, and that’s setting my spidey senses on edge.  Read about any story in the news, and you’ll find different reporting and opinion on the issue.  In this case, it’s as if there’s only one writer, and the same few photos,  with all the reporting sites are using the exact same copy and not changing it one little bit.  Terfs are gleefuly shouting “why aren’t the trans community speaking out again Yaniv?”.  Well, for the reasons I’ve already mentioned.  If I read something on a terf site, I’m immediately inclined to not believe it, and go search the internet for more opinions, just like I would with Fox News or the “newspaper”, The Sun, I don’t trust any of them.

I’ve been refused service in beauty salons before when I was first transitioning in 1999.  It was demoralising, upsetting, but I found a salon that didn’t have an issue with me and used their services, (this was for hair removing electrolysis on my face.  I was advised to hair permanent hair removal on my genitals before having lower surgery, and my then beauty therapist would have most likely been fine doing it, but I was fine asking.  If it was so neccesary, then it should have been provided by my medical team, as it was a medical issue, not to mention that electrolysis involves putting a thin needle (which feels like the size of the fattest knitting needle when it’s in you) into each hair folicle repeatedly over a long period of time).  That beauty therapist waxed my legs once, and believe me, once was enough!

So, if Jessica Yaniv is genuine, this is discrimination, but, if those salons don’t offer treatment of the genitals in question to be waxed, then it’s not.  There shouldn’t be any problem with them performing waxing on other areas that are common to both men and women, eyebrows for example.  I’m sure some salons will do waxing of those genitals, and that’s down to their discretion.  If someone doesn’t want to wax your genitals because they’re uncomfortable doing it, they shouldn’t have to do it.  I believe Yaniv was told that some salons for men would perform the procedure, but if Yaniv is genuine, then they’re probably not going to feel comfortable having a man do that so what needs to happen, if Yaniv is genuine, they need to find someone they’re confortable with, who’s comfortable with them.  If they’re not genuine, they need to stop what they’re doing immediatelly, as they’re doing a major disservice to the trans community.

The case is ongoing with a verdict predicted to be reached within 3 months.

  1. #1 by Street Voice UK on August 17, 2020 - 1:21 am

    I see you failed to update on this case where Yaniv was completely destroyed as a racist and fantasist in this case in which they had to pay out several thousand canadian dollars. There’s also other actions against Yaniv which is goping to cost them financially too!

    • #2 by oopster74 on August 17, 2020 - 3:37 am

      I haven’t posted any updates about this because I’ve not been following it since I wrote the piece, frankly, I’ve been too busy with other stuff and simply not had the time to do anything on my blog. You appear to have totally misunderstood the point of the story, I’m that the reporting of it is not verifiable by any reputable news sources, so fact checking is an issue. My blog is about reporting about things I feel strongly about at the time, and isn’t to generate ratings or clicks or to try to sensationalise things. If you want that then read the tabloids and buy yourself a big bag of salt to go with it.

      • #3 by Street Voice UK on August 17, 2020 - 4:42 am

        Its a lie to say you cannot find any reputable news paper to find all about Yaniv. That is a lie. Google it. Just like your blogs moaning at radical feminism dead naming / misgendering yet you remain silent when Clare Flourish does it to me. Do I need to get my mental health sorted? No I don’t. I accept biological reality and live life in a way that sees me evolve daily as a decent person who is both vegan and a socialist and trade unionist.

      • #4 by oopster74 on August 17, 2020 - 9:49 am

        A lie? Really? No, I just haven’t bothered looking since l posted the original article a year ago, this is the third time I’ve told you this.

        The one thing you should know about the internet, is that it’s a great source of information, but it’s not always reliable or truthful. For example, they say a photo paints a thousand words, so if I were to see a photo of someone performing a nazi salute, I may think they’re a facist, a thoroughly nasty piece of work, the worst kind of trash possible, but without knowing any more information, it would be wrong of me to draw any conclusion till I had more information. If I couldn’t find any more relevant reliable information, then I wouldn’t be able to form a fair and proper judgment of the situation.

        Someone deadnaming you? My initial thoughts are that’s not on, but seeing your comments and posts in various locations, I’m inclined to say “aw diddums”, what goes around comes around. Don’t piss off karma because she can be a bitch.

        Yes, you do need mental health support. You are clearly a fetishist in denial, abusing and lashing out at anyone who disagrees with you. Posing for photos nearly revealing your genitalia I’m every photo you take.

        You say you’re a vegan? Good, more lovely bacon 🥓 and cheese for me then, now I’ve wasted enough time on you and need to get back to work.

      • #5 by Street Voice UK on August 17, 2020 - 7:55 pm

        LOL you haven’t got a job. As for locations I’ve posted from two blog pages. One old and one new. Fucking pedo lover x

      • #6 by oopster74 on August 17, 2020 - 8:08 pm

        Oh I’ve got a job that I absolutely love. And no, I’m not a pedo lover.

        Those are 2 claims you’ve made about me without even knowing who I am, and I believe one of them is libellous it’s slanderous, I’d have to consult a solicitor to know which.

        You are a sad little individual looking for attention, whether that’s good attention or not you’ll take it, and oh how you love to play victim “ooh, some people took photos of me last night at the train station so I flashed them”. It’s this kind of weird and strange behaviour that gets you into bother. You’re an adult, act like one.

      • #7 by Street Voice UK on August 17, 2020 - 8:10 pm

        Hahaha you post supporting Yaniv that is my eyes is condoning child abuse and by the way you can sue for libel etc if you are identified. You aren’t identified. Plus no lawyer in the land would take on the case due to the comments and abuse you and Clare have thrown at me so I hope some stabs you both to fucking death ya fucking pedos. See ya.

      • #8 by oopster74 on August 17, 2020 - 8:16 pm

        Show me where I’ve posted support for Yaniv. You can’t, because I didn’t. I was playing devils advocate, not taking sides, simply exploring for the truth. The post is a year old. It’s something happening in the usa, so not widely reported in the uk. You are a very disturbed individual. Hoping me and Clare are stabbed to death? That’s nice of you.

  2. #9 by Clare Flourish on August 17, 2020 - 9:02 am

    Eventually The Guardian looked at Yaniv, and said she was hateful, even though the people attacking her in media were too. The judge who skewered Yaniv, Devyn Cousineau, was the same one who found for Morgan Oger. But, yeah, most of the hate directed at Yaniv in the early reporting was attempting to say “They’re all like that”, and came from some pretty hateful sources.

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